Oh gosh you guys. Oh gosh. Nothing bad happend, I just don't know what to do. I have been flying my trainer for 2 years......going to fly it almost every other week on Sat. and then in the summer I fly EVERY DAY.....What should I do. I mean, the first half seems that they.......well.....it's not that they don't recommend the Se as a second plane.......but it's just not a good second plane. Too responsive I guess. I really, seriously have been looking at the 4*, and the SE. Great looking planes. Actually, there was two guys at the field. One lives in Georgia, the other in West Virginia. The field that I fly at is their halfway point where they meet to fly together once a year. Guess what, on had a 4*, the other had a Somethin' Extra. I got to fly the 4* at.......I dunno.....like 5 mistakes high with the old Futaba Gold Box that he had. I couldn't fly the Somethin' Extra. That 4* rolled like a dream. So fast and he didn't even have high rates on!!!! But, I still don't know what to do. I mean I could always fly on the buddy box until I got the hang of it. Let the instructor trim it out and get every last minute adjustments together for me. I would probably buy either one in a kit and build it over the winter and have it ready for Spring in '04. So, I dunno who said it, but will the SE really hang on a .46 FX? I was thinking of like a.......um 52.........or something that would let it hang. I dunno. Well, I dunno which one I will get.......will get back in touch next week when I come home with a kit plane to build; I'll probably get it the week of Thanksgiving. Oh, by the way, for you guys that have th 4* and the SE, what were the kit prices on them both? Just wondering. I am still contemplating on which to buy. The guy that the Hobby Stop in Rock Hill, SC told me that the kit for the SE was $180. I dunno if he said $80 or $180. I don't know. I was on the phone, a I didn't wanna call them again; I call them too much neways to ask questions.........Well, this is a long post and I hope that I get something good that will inspire me to get the SE. It flew beautifully. But, I HAVE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR WHAT i HAVE FOUND OUT IN THESE POSTS ABOVE. THANKS AAAALLLLLOOOOOOTTTTT.