PLAWRENCE, you bring up a HUGE point I forgot to mention, and that is being able to feel whats happening, in the real aircraft. I bet that one part in of itself, is one of the main things in flying a real heli well, is being able to respond, and give input control by simply the 'feel' or whats happening. I would also say Wisdom seeker, thats a great way to describe flying the models.....it is very detached! As anyone whos learned to fly the model type knows, first hand, and probably a result of a crash at some point or another...[:@]