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Well, No. Renegades by their very nature don't publish or advertise the results of accidents whereas Chartered clubs are required to report to AMA. Your assertion that renegades have a proven safety record and are demonstratably better than clubs (as you compare them to AMA members that don't belong to clubs) is totally unfounded. There's absolutely no way of demonstrating or proving anything about renegades because there's no one compiling statistical evidence either for or against where AMA is compiling records on chartered clubs. Additionally, the comparison of Clubs safety records to AMA members that don't belong to clubs is not valid. How many of those non-club members fly by themselves out in the boonies (it's hard to injure someone else or do property damage when your all alone in the boonies). How many of those non-club members are older, non-flying members who just support AMA by joining and continue to feel involved by reading MA (these guys are probably not gonna get injured either).
I've been to the Poway industrial area regenade site twice and I gotta tell ya. Scared the h$!! outta me both times. No frequency control and guys taking off without even asking what freq everyone was on or checking airborne pilots for channel conflicts. Flying behind the established flight line. Flying from both sides of the road that was in use as a runway with low passes happening in front and behind people. I'm not a big advocate for a lot of rules, but my experience has been that no rules means chaos.
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In my original post I never said there were no rules where I fly. The rules, "gentleman's rules", are not posted, but heck does everything have to be spelled out from A-Z for people to have fun.
Well, I take a little bit of that last statement back. I usually do not give ground, but I guess in this case I will, just a little, due to the fact that there are a few people (maybe you, I don't know, never met ya) that do need things spelled out in that fashion. They are the type of people that think you can drive recklessly on the highway because they didn't see a sign that said "reckless driving prohibited". People of the same mentality, if there home was on fire, would burn in their homes, because nobody said they could leave. I am not of this mental mindset and do not want to fly around people who think as such.
Now, back to the main point. Common sense and the gentleman's rules apply at our field. It is a "renegade" field, but works extremely smooth. I can't help you about the Poway Renegades, but sounds like you made a decision, based on "common sense", not to fly that day because things were a little out of hand. I can tell you from first hand experience that I have been "shot down" twice by someone turning their transmitter on....................Oh, by the way............it was at a sanctioned AMA field. Also, to drive my point home so to speak, I have never been a victim of being "shot down" at our renegade field. So now, I have to get shot down 3 times at the renegade field to be statistically worse(money wise and danger wise) than the AMA field. There you have it in a nutshell.
Airdogiam
"I will cut my own path through the valley of resistance and it will be straight and true"..Airdog