Hi Flyfree, Checked out the throws as you gave to me and they all check out with the exception of the elevator. It seems to have been adjusted so as it has about 1/4 down rather than a neutral position. I'm thinking that this might be in compensation for the "climbing" problem I have read about. Wondering if I should reset it to neutral and see if the wing should be shimmed or just see how it does like it is. Thanks