One can spin a three channel trainer, and one can spin a two channel trainer. I regrded the Firebird XL as a trainer because that is what I have trained on. I used a spin on it to get down fast when I was so high I thought I'd loose it in the wind or range. I'd cut the motor, and turn . It would spin in less than a second, an descend rapidly. The Pull Out was opposite "turn" and then power. This is the only "aerobatic" I could do with the XL, other than porpoise through the air, and then return to straight and level flight. My grand kids thought That was cool too![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]