ORIGINAL: swooper
I don't think flying as a self-styled "'Renegade" is responsible at all. It's just taking advantage of the work and care others have provided to create a legal and legitimate framework for aeromodeling to exist at all. We wouldn't have the radio frequencies without the efforts of the AMA. You could fly with illegal radio gear, but then you'd be in federal trouble with the FCC. I think this unregulated flying of heavy, fast jets could easily lead to...no more jet products available. It isn't that hard to operate within the AMA structure, and if there is to be any legal aeromodeling in the overcrowded future, it will either be well self-regulated or too tiny to hurt anybody. I'll bet you'll love being limited to 2 oz. 6mph parkflyers.
I didn't see your invitation to others to fly at your lakebed, which would be a real reason to post here. The other motivation would be thumbing your nose at us AMA members. A real renegade would be out there, flying on his own without a need to brag about it.
Sorry, I'm out of touch with these times when the only law is "You can't tell me nothing, I'm going to do whatever I want." I'm able to see the benefits of order and limitation. Please, go out to your lakebed, be free, and get all turbine modeling outlawed. I'd like that.
Swooper or should I say Drooper,
What you are saying just doesn't register with me. How can it be irresponsible for me to go to a dry lake bed, or anywhere else for that matter, if I operate the model safely, take responsibility for my actions, and operate the model with regards to others? If that makes me a renegade in your book, because I didn't follow the AMA protocol where it has no, for lack of a better word, Jurisdiction, oh well!
That being said, however, I do agree, as I stated in a previous post, that if a person flys at an AMA field, then they should follow the rules until they can
effect change to those rules which are ill-planned and unrighteous. I am not a sheep and will not accept everything thrown my way, just because someone said its for the better. Maybe you are like that, I don't know (haven't met ya), but if you are, there is a new rule about to be put into effect, it is as follows:
"RULE #12345 of the AMA sanctioned body, paragraph 2, subsection 3 states that at 1 minute after sunrise to the end of civil twilight any person who is on an AMA sanctioned flying field must, three times an hour, get on their knees and hands, otherwise known as getting on all fours, and make specific sounds that mimic a wooly four legged animal commonly known as a sheep. While performing such action the person shall make vocal sounds resembling the written phonetics of Bahhhh, Bahhhh, Bahhhh! Only after doing such action may the person continue to fly his or her model airplane in which the AMA has given them the right to do so."
Heh, Heh, well you probably look at that rule as a bunch of baloney and would not follow it. For me, however, that is how I see the turbine regulations. I think they are a bunch of baloney, due to the simple fact there is a double standard between other facets of the hobby such as huge 3d planes, 200 plus MPH prop driven jobs, Helos, etc. My point is, that if the regulations were not so different for turbines then more jet flyers would go to the local flying field and be part of the AMA regulations, which would be for the most part equal. Under the current regulations, more people like myself will see the B.S involved and seek other places(renegade field) to fly safely.
Also, in your reply you related that our renegade attitude is such that we have no respect for the law and we would do whatever regardless. Your assumption is entirely misplaced and ill-conceived. Regardless of the AMA RULES, they are not LAWS, and no matter if you are at a dry lake bed or an AMA field, every person still has to abide by the law of the land such as the penal code, vehicle code, civil code, health and safety, etc, etc. I have the upmost respect for the law and have enough common sense to know when I am doing wrong. Safely flying a turbine at a dry lake bed, taking responsibility for my actions, and being aware of the safety of others, in my book is not wrong and certainly not against the LAW.
Good day!
Airdogiam
"I will cut my own path through the winding valley of resistance and it will be straight and true"
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