thanx for expressing my feelings on this issue also, I consider myself conservative ,carefull,and observent in my flying activities, but the more time i spend at the local ama field the more i feel that eventually im going to drive as far as it takes to get away from this increasingly oppressive association!! these are the same people that when its announced that we all need a license to wash our car in front of the house will shout, "gosh,lets go, were does the line start?? just my 2 later, Ted aka flip-flop-fly!