I wish I could fly this weekend! We have a Nor'eater going on here - bummer. I have skis for the UCD .46 but the winds will be too much. Anways, when I'm doin a harrier the nose is up 40 degress or so with lots of elevator and constant low-throttle changes. I do maintain some airspeed - maybe 10 mph (little to no ground speed into the wind) and transition into a hover or high-alpha knife edge.