There is a lot to the setup or modifications to the G2 planes. Go to http://www.aero3d.net and download one of the big ULTIMATES. (http://www.aero3d.net/Ultimate/ultimate.shtml might work... some are just schemes, others are plane setups/mods) One of these planes (I forget which one) will hover and TR easily. Well... they have a lot of control authority! But the sim is great for developing the proper reflexes... It is great for things like rolling circles... with a roll direction change each 90 degrees... or starting out knife edge, rolling in, out, in, out!!!! and then rolling figure 8's!!! LOL... rG2 really is a great tool... and just remember... all these guys who can do the WHIZ-BANG aerbatics with a model... THEY HAVE NO LIFE!!!!! LOL.. I know.. THATS ME!! LOL

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