edh, those are expensive planes!! I do think the avistar is a nice plane, and can do some cool aerobatics. If you have someone that can do the buddy box with you, the sky is the limit. I'd go for a 4*40-60 or a Sig Somethin Extra. They land like trainers ,and can be really nasty on high rates. Good luck!...BTW, here's a pic of my SE to wet your taste buds