I totally agree with hidden costs and it I have never been able to just double the kit price --for instance 1/4 scale champ-kit cost 150.00 covering 120.00, glue has been around 20.00, hardware 50.00 extra balsa that I cut the wrong pieces and those types of mistakes was about 25.00-engine 399.00 and 225 for radio-but I actually love building more than flying --all the building tools you accumalate after 20 years -but I just love it and cannot get enough of it. I am so addicted I have even built a 20 X 30 climate controlled workshop with bright lights and finished in white sheetrock and pegboard, but R/C building is the most fun I have ever had -maybe I never grew up but I am thankful I didn't.-thanks[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]