Congrats Tony! Welcome to the "looped my LMH club". I did one of those low level loops but a stupid shrub like tree reached out an grabbed my Heli. No damage. Thats how I know you have to have plenty of altitude when doing a loop. I know what you mean about the wing overs, they are pretty neat, arent they?. Yep, its fun to whip these around like there is no tomorrow and if you crash dont have to worry about expensive repairs. Ive done stupid things like flying through and under trees (some of it intended the other times it was the "OH NO!!!" factor). One time I was seeing how low I can get to the ground in fast forward flight. i was comming in screaming fast. guess what..... The engine died. I never seen so many loops and flips. You'd thought it was an olympic event. I didnt even suffer any damage that would keep me from flying. Now, I plan on suiting up my heli in my bodies and getting some flying videos. One of these days Im gonna get a camera that will shoot video clips longer than 15 seconds at a time and record sounds.