Here is a picture of my GP ultimate bipe and my Lazy ace bipe. I did not build either one of these planes but got them on a trade deal. My flying buddy has built a liberty sport and he does not recommend this as a first build. I would stick with an ARF kit there are a few out there. You can also look at the market place and might find one that someone is selling. I don't like to build planes and would rather get one already built or as an ARF. I am getting ready to replace the 46FX on my ultimate to a Saito 72 4 stroke so that I can start doing some 3D stuff with it.