YEP THATS IT ABOUT 15 TO 20 YRS AGO THAT WAS THAT BEST COMBAT PLANE GOING THAT I COULD TELL AS NOBODY ELSE HAD ANYTHING DIFFERENT THERE WASN'T A POINT SYSTEM EITHER. EITHER YOU CUT THE GUYS RIBBON OR YOU DIDN'T THEY'RE EASY TO BUILD REPAIR AND FLY AS YOU SEE NOW. THEY USED TO COST ABOUT $20 AS WELL. THAT WAS ALOT OF FUN WATCHING THOSE THING GO AROUND. I GUESS NOW THE PLANES THEY HAVE ARE QUITE A BIT FASTER AND MANEUVERABLE EH? I'M STILL TRYING TO CATCH UP ON WHAT I MISSED OVER THE LAST 20 IN THIS HOBBY. ALOT HAS CHANGED I'M BUILDING A TRAINER AS WE SPEAK FROM STICKS. JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING OUT THERE IS AN ARF OR RTF. I'LL START SOLOING SOON HAVEN'T WRECKED YET HOPEFULLY I WON'T BUT I THINK I'M DREAMING. HAPPY FLYING AND CUT SOME RIBBONS FOR ME. EH! WHEN I CAN I'LL BE UP THERE TRYING TO DO THE SAME. THANX