I have a Magic with a 30 year old Enya 60 mounted on it- you want to talk vertical? 3-D, etc... The only problem is the cheap hardware- I've broken the gear so many times with good if not better than good landings. I run a 12x8 APC and it will hang on it all day long if I was good enough. The nice thing is if I get into trouble, I can pour the coals to her and she'll climb like a home sick angel.