here is a pic of my buddies twin thunder quake ... he has raced title for title with alot of people and has walked away with their trucks .... t-maxxes / savages are his main targets cause the guys are blind to seeing what the thunder quake can become with a little work .... any truck can be a strong truck .. they just need a little work and for guys to try something different ... there has yet to be a perfect truck come out of production ... no matter what the truck it gets hop-ups ... there is always something that can be improved on ...