Yo...Vic, There are a few givens here. Yes, Italy is a beautiful country, (the last three words in that statement you will have to sell me on). Yes, Leonardo was a great thinker, but it was his dreams and drawings that earned him the moniker "father of flight". He never attained human flight in his "ornithoptor". Actually he only fully completed a handfull of projects and they were all paintings. He took something that was established in nature and tried to adapt it. He saw a bird fly and thought that was a good idea. Now, actuall flight took place in a beautifull country with intellegent persons, right here in the USA. Self propelled, fixed wing aircraft, now thats a different story. They had an idea, from nature, and worked at it untill they achieved their goal. Know what thats called? PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE !!!! Granted G2 is a great educational tool, but do me a favor and look up the word "simulator" A machine that simulates an environment or application. Can you say SIMULATE? By all means get as much stick time on that tool as you can but it will never replace real time in the air. Your on the right track but its a long and expensive journey with that attitude. And could you do me a favor and knock it off with the cutsie avitars? We're not on a date here. Joe