Ray,

That was so simply explained. I can do rolling circles or very jerky rolling harriers all day long with either the rudder or the elevator but have yet to put both together for a smooth rolling harrier. I don't loose it on the final quarter of the circle, but have seen it done many times. My stinking timing is off for these rolling maneuvers. I have to break a bad habbit that would have been as hard as quitting smoking. I have a hard time with the sticks both having to touch the stops at the same time. Great for snap rolls and blenders. Horibly ugly in the first two rolls of a rolling circle. Now I should be able to sit in the dark and retime my inputs even with say, the G2 controler and the computer off. I think I will keep my eyes open though at the field for now. Trust in such a routine will come with time.

Ithank you for what I think is a great tip. Do you also visulize your plane as you work this into your brain or is it simply a muscle memory technique?

Errol