well with the dirt hawgs, they do grap really good when you let up on the throttle..i'm not in to raceing yet so it about 75% WOT and 25% turning..yesterday my son a i had to learn how to use the throttle in the air or it would always land on the RPM wide frt. bumper..thats where you find out that the battery moving was really differnt..it was great going off a 5 ft high mound and landing out about 7 ft... did break the frt bulk head but not sure if it was from yesterday or last week.