I have the Nobler ARF with a Brodak 40 on it. I do have to run it rich to slow it down but it works out well. I've just gotten back into C/L after a little over 25 years and found it's just like riding a bicycle (well almost). I joined the club that John Brodak has in Charmichaels, Pa. I've seen the Oriental flown by Bob Zambelli in late December. It had the Brodak 40 on it. It flew great and only weighed 34 Oz. John will have his ARFs ready for sale in early March. His second group will include the Smoothie and a couple of others. You will be able to choose the color scheme you want or be able to get one without covering. Check out his web site and get your order in soon. They're going like hotcakes (well almost).