U are both right! Cheers pals. For some strange reason England had a hot and windless day which is like the end of the earth for this time of year for over here. Which was great ofcourse, so i took it to the field which is about 30 feet away from my house and has a 20 foot bank at the end so i hand launched it off there and hoped for the best, turning gently it didnt decide to plumet to its demise, and carried on happily around the field about twice, GREAT FUN!!! Im now worrying as i have to go to college tommorow and wont get back till 5 so im hopin it wont be dark by then so i can fly again Thanx once again! U guys are great, no doubts i will be back with more problems for u to laugh at. And help with me[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]