Yeah but if you read my opening post flying is no problem whatsoever for me. I was inverted with my first heli in 1 month (hovering inverted and all ways of flight down. I gues i am 1 of the lucky naturals fell in love wiht rc flying right from the start and planes are just looking cooler and cooler every time i see them fly. Just a stupid question but did you ever take off running after your bird when the engine cut up high and tried to catch it before it hit the ground. Because i seen a successful attempt by a member in our club last summer. Funniest thing i ever seen , i **** you not...!