you all know that when the newbies try to fly some guy with a pattern job takes off and the new guy gets blown right out of the way. a lot of instructors will not even try to teach when this happens. the pattern jobs fly right on and over the runway and the new guy cant get near the strip for fear that his plane will get knocked out of the sky we have two fields here and both favor the patterns or helos we have some great instructors but they also back away from teaching when the patterns go up. this is just a thing that i have because I have try ed to teach new fliers and see a big problem when the other guys just don't CARE