Man that is alot of good info guys. I have a few friends who have been flying planes since we were little boys(not to little) like 15 , 16. But they are so happy that i finnaly am going to planes because not one of em can fly my helis without putting it in good. But man when it comes to planes they never cease to maze me. So they are gung ho on getting me going. I bought a T6xas with a trainer cable so i can hook up to their tx and they take it if i loose it in the air, and they can also land it till i feel comortable. I will take your advice on the linkages to. Thank you all very much a huge help. Went from planning on flying my 1 good plane to another pretty decent plane UCDO3d which probably saved my cap for another day lol . Appreciate it tons