Well stated NUKES! One of my big gripes is like the guy who showed up and repeatedly asked me and several others what type of trainer to start with, I personally spent a lot of time trying to get him started in the right direction, 4 channel 40 size, etc. Guess what, he showed up with a motorized 3 channel glider and expected me to spend my time teaching him to fly. I directed him to the instructor who suggested this plane, they promptly pulled the wings off when the student got it into a dive and jerked it back, instant lawn dart from 200 ft. (these things are a bear to land in the wind and a beginner is really not ready for that, I think).