seems to me that much of this is a bunch of nonsense any way. I mean there seems to be hard and fast rules in some clubs that if a new pilot cant fly the plane straight and level and control the turns etc then they cant fly solo. well this is a no brainer really i mean think about it the example was made about buzzing rabbits 400' below and buzzards 400' above, and yes i know it is just an example, but really who would turn a student loose if he cant hold his alt within 800' of level? its a no brainer. bottom line i think is that no one would honestly turn any one loose if that is as good as it gets, through the training the pilot will get better at all aspects of flying and this is true with or without a check list it takes what a gallon of fuel to train some one maybe 2 or 3, he's going to get better and smoother again this is true even witout a check list.


as for the risk of flying at some fields goes all i can say is some places are just not suitable for ANYONE. and let me say here i used to fly at san diego jack murphey stadium (how long ago was that) with interstate 8 off to the left an office building just beyond the chargers practice field a main road i believe 6 lanes maybe only four off to the right and a daycare center ahead and to the right and any one who felt like being in the parking lot with us on the runway you want paranoid try ' dont fly over the daycare dont fly over the freeway dont fly over the team car on runway um sir would you mind parking behind us hey man dont be flying over friars road' and on and on the point is that we can require all new guys to fly like chuck yeager but maybe it would be as helpfull if we just relaxed a bit and taught them all without the pressure of dont go here dont go there but instead focused on the rough edges and and so much on pressuring them to not screw up this is after all what most of these rules are saying 'do it right or you cant solo here'