Tall Paul...... get good 3-views of a ME-262 that show the thrust lines of the real thing. The downthrust I quoted for the particular design is there. The photo you used to refute it just plain is a bad angle for seeing it. Its just too bad my 3-view set DOES NOT FIT my scanner. (it would take about 24 pieces to scan it all...)

I never said that you ALWAYS used that much downthrust on a twin... I said some designs used UP TO 9 deg, to reduce the amout of side thrust needed. becuase it works.) I said that a PARTICULAR MODEL of a P-38 for FF used 9 deg downthust and it cured the thing from being forced into a spn if one porp quit providing power before the other. (not that the full scale had anything near the same thrust angle...)