whats S/N ratio ?
i didnt claim to know anything, i said ages ago if you want a million dumb ideas and maybe a good one ask me.
for me its Lazy options and cheats
( btw, that brushless motor is now for sale at WestonUK )

ok, blades, your saying that each blade turns as it gos round, so it acts like a heli set up, clever.... but impractial for models
reminds me of that snellflight heli that controls its tips motors in the same fashion.

Yes they had swashplates, i said fixed pitch because i was compairing heli blades to planes props for the purpose of hovering. you also dont have those high drag issues with the forwards flight if you use aircraft props. theres a turbine aerobatic model thread you should look at, hes overcomming all these drag problems

Hanging planes, yep, we have tail surfaces, but again, the refrence was to the amount of control you have over the thrust and there fore the ascent and descent rates. nothing to do with hovering a fun fly. my hangs are all over the place, but i can control height ok.

i said am i right? not i am right. its only a model, cheat if you have to, if you dont mind losing hover and all its problems go for a STOL
it's a start.

And maybe thats where my one good idea was in all this, build a simple test bed. so now i'll let you all get on with it
Toodle pip