thanks mini boy, in my mind I'm still a rookie when it comes to heli but as long as I can get in an occasional loop or two I think the corona should keep me happy for a little while and allow for some training in the patience area. I'm still like a kid in a lot of ways when it comes to taking my time and doing it right. I know I need to slow down but excitement always pushes me along. maybe the corona will be more forgiving until I grow up some.