ORIGINAL: Sprink
Andy, Stuart had the 180, so you can ask him. May be a bit biased though, it was his 180 that tried to cut his arm off [:@]
I was looking at the Central Hobbies website yesterday, the ES carbon pipes did look good, but they are even more expensive than the Hattori.
Thought they might be more expensive
I did know stuart had the 180, still waiting to hear how it was (apart from biting him).
Simon, i have had saitos before, very impressed with them but nnever had anything bigger than the 72.