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Old 06-14-2002 | 02:14 PM
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Gordon Mc
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Silver182

Hello Gordon,
Don't mean to be a know-it-all here but if you use the full capabilities of the Futaba programming i.e. "Conditions" I think you could have so many different "rates" per channel it would be ridiculous. If rates are what you are looking for using "Conditions" three or more on each primary channel is doable.

One of the most powerful features of the Futaba is the Conditions.



Hi Lee,

Been there, thought about that...

I looked into using the above approach, and after much debate with Ann Marie Cross (GP / Futaba support), it was concluded that conditions unfortunately would NOT work like triple rates.

The problem is in the way that conditions have been implemented. Instead of you selecting what things a condition should change, and have it leave everything else alone, conditions take a copy of just about everything, and impose those copied parameters (not just the changed or selected parameters) when you engage that condition. This causes numerous problems, including:

1) You can't *compound* conditions. Whichever switch you flipped last overrides whatever switch you flipped second last. What I mean by that is this - with TRUE triple rates, I can independantly change the rate of any one control without affecting ANYTHING else. That means that if I simply want to change from medium rate rudder to high-rate, without changing the currently in use rates on the other controls, I can do so.

As soon as I use conditions to try to give me the same flexibility I run into the problem that flipping that switch may change things that I don't want changed, because the condition refuses to leave my currently-in-use aileron and elevator rates alone, and instead insists on implementing whichever rates those controls have within this given condition. To get the ability to have each of the hi-med-lo options individually on all three controls, I would need to implement an enormous number of conditions, plus it becomes a usability nightmare. Lemme see ... which switch is it that gives me high-rate rudder, medium rate elevator and low-rate aileron... no, not that one - that's hi-med-med, not hi-med-lo..... no thanks.

2) For every one of the conditions that I'd end up setting to overcome the lack of triple rates, I'd have to INDIVIDUALLY reprogram every single condition when I want to change something basic like the servo sub trim position. There is no "change this in all conditions" option in the programming.
Ugh.

Don't get me wrong - I think that the Wc2 is a great radio in many ways - I just disagree with several of the decisions that they made in terms of the software. Not that the 10X is perfect either, but given the options that I have just now, I'll stay with the 10x for the forseeable future, and sell my Wc2 as soon as I crash the Raptor that its in. ;-) I may later buy another Futaba if I see any evidence that their programming has improved in terms of usability. From Ann Marie told me, some of the 8 series, plus the 9C already have slightly better programming, but for some reason that neither she nor I could fathom, Futaba left their flagship, top of the line, radio behind when they improved their UI on their cheaper radios. Hopefully that will change soon, and if so I will re-evaluate the radio at that time.

Regards,
Gordon