i've run with 1/8th scale cars on a 1/10scale track in Jersey and the track is pretty small and they pretty much out handle and out speed most of the 1/10th scalers on the track. most of the cars are mugens and serpents and to say 18~25 feet to turn is not true and all these cars come stock with front one-ways and they don't spin out. even a clumsy HPI super nitro will turn on a dime if dialed right. and it's a purpose built big basher. 1/10 don't grip better and 1/8th scale cars don't grip better there proportional to the size. 1/10scale tracks are smaller cause why use so much space for 1/10scale cars.