im sure youre probably right basin bum but i wanted to at least feel better in my mind about it. the sportsman aviation waco wasnt a bad arf, too much power i think for full throttle snaps and such.wasnt meant for it didnt mean to compare this arf to any other arf.. ive also had a GP extra 300s fly apart into pieces, and i think that also is a dandy arf. just trying to clear things out of the back of my mind, thats all. my wife says its pretty because its yellow, yes dear. hope to always have at least one. come to think of it.. the wings folded up on my goldberg tiger 2 with just a ttpro .46 on a downwind run.. straight & level. i beat the hell out of that plane and never dreamed that would happen. also a very good arf. but still as you say, no comparison