To all who responded, Thanks for all your input. I must agree as an old kit builder the ARF craze has taken the incentive away for manufactures to risk capital on .15-.25 size kits. The .25 seduction is tempting but a little beyond my flying interests and abilities. Regarding the post about "Wicked Wanda"....I do have those plans. Just hoping someone made a kit version. The hobby certainly has changed sine 1975 when I built my first Sig Kadet.