Rcaddiction you are right about great planes they are a good company to deal with , I was merely using Bax's statement as evidence that we are not to alter or modify in any way or it could void the warranty. I have dealt with great planes and they seem to be good people. No disrespect intended. Now as for your response to diablo you stated that the GSP is a good third or fourth plane? Well why does the BIG advertisement on RCU' s homepage state the "ARF" is already built and all you have to do is install radio and engine and off you go. Take a minute and go back and read it. Is the airplane in question not a "ARF" And yes it is easy for a newbie to not know what to reinforce when they are new to the hobby. I have some friends who recently started flying and I informed them on areas to watch out for and their response was !QUOT!but its a "ARF". Excactly what I expected since I was new a little while ago myself. i didnt know what to look for until I built the first 5 or so "arfs". Since then I have read so many forums it would make your head spin but I want to be informed on what I am doing and always willing to learn how to do it right.