Hi Italian-flyer,

If you are still learning 3d where do you get off telling people how to learn 3d flight? Why don't you listen to the pro's who have been flying 3d in the real world for years, and get into your head that the way to learn is pratice, pratice, pratice. It's all well and good to fly on a sim all the time. But it's not real world!!!! No matter how good the sim is it's not real world flying. You may be able to torque roll on the sim but can you do it with a real plane?

I am also new to 3d flying and if you have a sim or not you will never get a manoever right the first time!!! It doesn't matter what it is!!! Did you learn to fly a rc plane in one flight? Probably not!!!!![:@] You more than likely practiced, and practiced, and practiced. That's how you learn. IT's human nature!!! Doesn't matter if your a pro or not. If it's new to you, you need to practice to get it right. Some learn faster than others, but they still practice in some way!!!!!