Thanks fred- I'm an Airtronics flyer but the numbers on the JR's 8611 are about twice the power of the Airtronic's 58Z Digital(which I like) but couldn't resist the #'s on the 8611 and put one on rudder- you know. Now a dilemma: I put Airtronic's and JR "logos on my latest project . I like this servo compatibility thing,sooo when is Futaba going to (join the club)[sm=lol.gif]