thanks you guys for the replies the plane flys well infact a good freind of mine who flys a funtana took it up for me and was very impressed he flew it with no troubles at all the plane flew great we added just a little trim for elavators,im just new at low wing planes and maybe this wasent the best move i made buy buying this as a first low wing but i own it now! i do well with it but i still have the begginers stick twitching sindrome. infact i find flying my low wing is easier than my trainer as far as staying were you put it its not all over the place in the wind, im just intrested in flying scale right now the settings for scale on this plane were 3/16 up and down on the elavators witch i have set on my low rates but im afraid to use them due to if i get myself in trouble i dont have as much throw to corect myself so for now i would like to use the high rates 1/2 up 1/2 down for response purposes but i just wanted to soften the throws.......thanks again.........BILL .........I WILL START WITH THE 15% and lower them ias i progress