I have to disagree with you Adrian. The Edge is probably the best pure 3D aircraft out there. And I'll never understand why people feel it won't fly precision maneuvers. Bill Hemple won the IMAC NATS unlimited class several years in a row with an Edge 540. I agree with you on the Extra, I feel it is the best all around. Set up properly it will 3D as well as anything out there and is unmatched in precision flying. I honestly feel the Yak-54 is going to be the next big thing. It is a very neutral aircraft, requiring little if any corrective mixes, beautiful axial rolls, and it is a complete 3D animal.