Hey guys I just stumbled on this thread and it is turning into a novel considering the post... If you read my comment (as some people do then state how old this tread it and so on...) unsubscribe yourself... This seems to be another debate thread... I like these because seeing other's points of view is interesting and sometimes informing... I am awaiting a GP Giles G-202 which has been hacked up by many and praised by less... I know "the wing joint will need reinforcing", "it wasn't made for gas", "it will snap on landing", "not a 3D plane" and so on... I take some and I leave some... If it shows up at the LHS, we open it and it has defects we will ship it back before leaving the LHS... If not then I'll build it ... If it crashes for WHATEVER reason I won't call GP... When I entered the hobby in 1991 a man by the name of Mike Yeager got me into the hobby and took me flying when my Dad was flying for Delta.. He said "Scotty ARF's are crap!" I just listened to him and never bought them... Instead I bought good looking planes off the LHS ceiling in Tampa and flew them till they crashed... I just expected it... I got out of the hobby when I discovered girls and beer and just got back into it when I got stationed here at Ft. Sill, OK... I bought a GP Big Stik 40 ARF (love it) slapped an engine and radio in it and I bore holes in the sky daily... ARF's have come a long way since I first saw them and have totally changed the business in my point of view, but have not changed the fundamentals for most of us... I guess if I crash my big stik I can call the company? I used to just hang my head hand off my Tx to Mike and start the famous "walk of shame"... Getting down to the point, the only way to force a manufacturer to change thier products is to boycott them... Once you take off you are on your own IMO... Imagine if it were an American sweat shop making these planes with young adolescent brat teens on the assembly line? Heck they would be spitting on the planes let alone making errors... I'm just glad that I make enough money to afford the hobby and that I get to choose which one to buy... In some countries you can stand in line all day to buy a coat, get to the front of the line to find out that the "coat" they have isnt your size... Enough of my rambling... Sorry the builder is liable that is why we have AMA because I dont see someone suing an airplane company for a plane going through their window, but I do see someone trying to sue me... Also inspect eachothers planes before the maiden... It's called 2 man integrity, you military guys are familiar with it... Preflight your planes everytime and fly safely and you can blame yourself or a glitch after a crash... Almost Ready To Fly + You = Ready to fly or not? It's up to you don't drop the ball hehe... Just my $.25

PS I was going to buy a GSP but due to bad publicity I chose GP again... There you go...