I know what you mean. Ive never flown a Carden airplane. In fact the only plane larger than 1/4 scale i have flown is my H9 Sukhoi. That is all anybody talks about is how heavy them Carden airplanes are. They must not be too heavy because in last years XFC more than half of the pilots flew Carden planes. Hum. Whats up with that. Some of the worlds best freestyle pilots, flying crappy planes that are too heavy. I dont think so. I hope one day somebody will let me fly one so i can know for myself.