Russell2

I am not defending the Manufacturer of the above mentioned products. I have a learjet by Kyosho which flew beautiful on the stock motor/fans set up with 14 x 1700 running two motors in series on one speed controller. It only took about 100 feet to get it off the ground. Granted, it is no speed plane like the turbines. But for the 1/10th of the cost of a turbine, it is a very good package. As for the gas powered F-86, I understand it is under powered, but that is gas powered!!