Well Smallfly, you may think that the new Hard Bet Mk III is not as tough as the original, but I think that you'll find that it is just as tough, at least. I 'dumb-thumbed' my Mk III into the ground from an inverted flat spin about 4-6 ft off of the ground. I did have to build a new wing and fix the front of the fuse, but I went in at full throttle thinking that I could save it I think the better you get at flying, the more chances you take, and the only difference is as a beginner you normally chop the throttle when you get in trouble and repairs are minor, when you get better at flying, you slam the throttle full and try to pull it out, and if you don't make it, your re-building time is increased exponentially! Normally an aircraft going in the way mine did would have been trash. Numerous people saw me do this great maneuver (Ha Ha), and I have made several sales because of that crash because they were impressed with its survival capability. And NO, I do not crash on purpose to show their endurance capability!