Impossible, I have to try very hard to break my violator and usually I'm unsucessful. Everyone agrees that the violator is the ultimate basher or at least 90% of us. Also 3x thicker??? So does that mean that they are 12mm thick because I believe the violators are 4mm thick. Camaro, I'm curious as to which one you decided on. I know their both great, but the violator is just cooler with the wider suspension and bigger tank and all, as long as you dont care about ROAR rules that is. Plus isn't the PCR version PBS?? If it is, Ive heard several times from users on here and read in mags that PBS suspension isn't as durable or tough as the violator's style. I think the main advantage that a lot of people overlook is the width of the violator, it's 330mm which might not seem like much more than normal, but it's almost 10% wider! Thats huge! If you made your 1:1 cars suspension stance 10% wider the difference would be night and day and it applies here as well.