I'm already well established on the trainer and have a Super Sportser ARF ready to fly as soon as I get the courage to take it up. I didn't want to get into the great debate over which is a good second plane, since that question has been asked every other day. More of an input as to which company consistantly produces a good kit that comes with parts that fit well together, supplies decent and ample hardware which will limit my trips to the hobby shop, as well as supplies a good manual with minimal mistakes in printing. Sorry for any confusion. Thanks