thnx, but my point still is who gives the fai or any group the [almighty, none higher than us] rights to say who has a record.example [my group does not recognize the fai as a governing body for world records] .the only way you can say it is there is an [fai world record],[gwbr world record],[wxyz world record],etc.. but i guess if the majority of people on earth think the fai is the only group that can say who holds a record then so be it.