It's the same with anything in discussion groups. Whatever they have is the best and they will defend it even if they have no idea what they are talking about so they feel good about their purchase. Maybe Shozz does "think" that hyper 7 series is that much better than whatever buggy, but its just an opinion. And no SHozz I won't listen to you because you know people at ofna. Stop being so offended because I don't agree with you. Seriously man who cares who you know. I've seen both cars and it seems to me that the hyper and 9.5 series are very equal. I don't think the Violator is the shiznit or anything or definitely not that much better than the hyper series, but I do believe it has distinct advantages that in my mind made a difference. Thats it. Oh and camaro YES the width does make that big of a difference. It's not ROAR legal for a reason, because it is an unfair advantage.