rfw1953(wish i knew how to make it bold like you did), we all want the same thing, i think, just to help others avoid our mistakes, don't you think. About the plane, i have already replaced patty 1 with patty 2. I rarely do that. That's how much i think of that plane and she is such a good flyer. But, i'm also working on outfitting my new Carden 35% cap(3W 100 for power), and dealing for an RTF 30% Edge with a 3W 75. I would like to build one of those GP Christian Eagles but don't know if it will happen this summer. How about you?