Yeah the throws are pretty nutty on that thing. The funny thing is that I use an AM tx on that ARF and it's 3D rates ALL the time. No expo. But after a few minutes, you just get used to it and forget about it. The engine and radio gear, tx were from a trainer. $99 was all that it cost me for this little bird. A whole lot of fun for cheap.

P.S. This thing does inverted flat spins like a frisbee, pretty hilarious.