Thanks, I don't have a simulator with a joystick, (except my Jane's WWII Fighters simulator, I had not thought of that) and loop is about all I could do with a control line plane. I can see where low rates would help. I'm sure I am over doing my input. I will try to back off some on down elevator.
I'll just keep working at it. I'm sure balance is important too...at least left and right stays the same.